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1x01 Pilot Oct 4, 2008 14:46:03 GMT -5

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Post by cko on Oct 4, 2008 14:46:03 GMT -5

Can't believe we haven't talked about the pilot over here. I'll add more later, but briefly:
--Lots of spec about drunk Mom and what she meant when she said "tell them to come get me."
--Apparently a lot of people snarked on the recapper b/c barnes got ticked.

and this interesting item from mynamehere--makes me think of blue's [url=http://blue-sunflowers.livejournal.com
/5847.html#cutid1]Quiet Desperation[/url].

I see it ...the parents made Sam the "payment" for the dad being cured of his illness. When it came time to "collect" the Devil could have just carted him down to hell to spend eternity being punished. Yet, the devil did say that the people in hell are there for a reason. Since Sam's only "sin" or fault is college making him sleepy, he isn't deserving of an eternity spent in Advanced Quantum Engineering and Economics 215. So what else is there to do, the Devil received his "payment", but Sam wasn't deserving of torment, so he put the kid to work. As for if in the end Sam goes to Heaven or Hell, I don't think it's determined yet. Obviously, if Sam quits or gives up he defaults on "payment" and the Devil can Zamboni him. But if Sam dies of old age after a lifetime of working to keep the good vs. evil balance, I think it would be considered "paid off," and may have a shot of going to heaven.

Whew. That was from a year ago.

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1x01 Pilot Oct 4, 2008 14:48:14 GMT -5

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Post by cko on Oct 4, 2008 14:48:14 GMT -5

And I must paste this because...well...it's Stinger!

Though I missed the episode on the CW yesterday evening, I did manage to watch the leaked pilot just now and am going to assume that much of what was in the old pilot was present in the new one. If I mention things that have since been cut, please understand.

While I did want to avoid being negative, I do want to start off with the stuff that I didn't quite enjoy. There isn't much, but I feel it best to get that out of the way first so that I can end on a high, positive note.

- First, I don't dig Sam having telekinetic powers. What was cool about Buffy was that she was an ordinary human that was chosen to fight vampires. She didn't have special powers, she was just completely kickass. Sam having powers makes him special, and in my opinion, a little more difficult to relate to.

- I thought the showdown between Sam/Sock and the Arsonist was a bit anticlimatic. Sure, there was something of a fight and a bit of action, but for all the build up to it, I felt like it shouldn't have been over in a matter of seconds. Hopefully the writers can strike a balance between the time working up to the fight and the length of the fight. We'll see.

See? Only two things I truly dislike about the show. The rest was all cupcakes and candycanes. I'll be tuning in again next week.

Last Edit: Oct 4, 2008 15:04:21 GMT -5 by cko

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1x01 Pilot Oct 4, 2008 15:43:28 GMT -5

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Post by pacejunkie on Oct 4, 2008 15:43:28 GMT -5

First, I don't dig Sam having telekinetic powers. What was cool about Buffy was that she was an ordinary human that was chosen to fight vampires. She didn't have special powers, she was just completely kickass. Sam having powers makes him special, and in my opinion, a little more difficult to relate to.

I beg to differ with Stinger here and point out that Buffy most definitely had slayer power. We saw episodes where she loses her slayer power and gets her ass kicked. She had prophetic dreams, was super strong and a super fighter and not just because she trained.

The reason we could still relate to Buffy was because she dealt with real life issues and problems at the same time she was a Slayer, and those real life dilemmas were things she couldn't just fight with her slayer power. In real life, high school, relationships, money troubles, etc, she was as human as us. That's why I don't have a problem with Sam having superpowers either. They may come in handy in his work as a bounty hunter, but other than that, he's still a regular guy and like Buffy, powers won't solve all his problems.

evilalex Demon Posts: 191	1x01 Pilot Oct 28, 2008 8:18:56 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by evilalex on Oct 28, 2008 8:18:56 GMT -5 this is right after sam wakes up

cko Administrator Posts: 2,309	1x01 Pilot Oct 28, 2008 21:16:36 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by cko on Oct 28, 2008 21:16:36 GMT -5 I've watched the Pilot many times but have never spotted this detail. Love it!
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1x01 Pilot Jan 17, 2009 17:56:32 GMT -5

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Post by pod135 on Jan 17, 2009 17:56:32 GMT -5

Has anyone heard Kevin Smith's Podcast about directing the pilot? Interesting stuff

search - SModcast 8: The Entirely Too Over-Long Episode (also on itunes)
(starts 15min. in)

Good to hear about the process and red tape that goes along with making a show. Despite the many hindrances that are now gone as season 1 is over, I don't suggest he do it again even tho: I love his stuff, the pilot and this crazy show idea I heard that they could pull in Tom Welling (Clark/Superman from Smallville) for a guest cameo spot that the huge Superman fan (Smith) would love.

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1x01 Pilot Jan 17, 2009 18:24:43 GMT -5

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Post by cko on Jan 17, 2009 18:24:43 GMT -5

Cool find, pod, I haven't heard that before, and didn't know that Kevin Smith had a podcast; no surprise I guess. Here's one link, though possibly your idea of googling is better since this site kept quitting on me. I'm going to try iTunes instead! I'll report back if anything juicy!

ETA: I listened, and I summarized, in the Media Mentions thread. The things I do for you all!

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1x01 Pilot Feb 6, 2009 1:48:24 GMT -5

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Post by hypercaz on Feb 6, 2009 1:48:24 GMT -5

The thing that bugs me most about the pilot - Sam's disappearing and reappearing face fuzz. I showed my brother the pilot today and we almost started a drinking game out of it. That aside, I love everything else in this episode. The hockey rink scene still gives me the heebijeebies.

Hmm I did a transcript and a bunch of screencaps last year, but there's always something new that sticks out. For some reason I had deluded myself into believing that Andi didn't see the Devil until the magic episode, but she saw him at the end of this one too.

As a matter of fact, it DOES say "Jedi" on my census.

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1x01 Pilot Feb 6, 2009 1:57:12 GMT -5

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Post by Blue Sunflower on Feb 6, 2009 1:57:12 GMT -5

Feb 6, 2009 1:48:24 GMT -5 hypercaz said:

Hmm I did a transcript and a bunch of screencaps last year,

Do link.

That is, if we don't have them already. My goal is world Reaper domination, in case y'all haven't figured that out already.

And yeah, talk to cko and onyourmark IIRC about the glory of Bret's magical facial fuzz. I still say it's one of his demon powers.

You need to be persistent, like the ocean. Little waves of us crashing on the shores of ABC until they gradually wear down.

All Hail Your Cat-Loving Overlord. Serve me well.

flyingcircus Fallen Angel Posts: 14	1x01 Pilot Jun 20, 2012 14:20:41 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by flyingcircus on Jun 20, 2012 14:20:41 GMT -5 Just a quick question. Sam was in college. So, which subjects do you think he chose?

cko Administrator Posts: 2,309	1x01 Pilot Jun 21, 2012 23:57:32 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by cko on Jun 21, 2012 23:57:32 GMT -5 Hmmmmm.... --Business Administration 1A --Jazz Dance --Poetry 102
	"...remember, every seat provides an equal view of the universe." (announcement at the planetarium, American Museum Natural History, New York City.)

Blue Sunflower Administrator Posts: 2,574	1x01 Pilot Jun 23, 2012 0:11:35 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Blue Sunflower on Jun 23, 2012 0:11:35 GMT -5 Jun 20, 2012 14:20:41 GMT -5 flyingcircus said: Just a quick question. Sam was in college. So, which subjects do you think he chose? I'm not so sure iit's the classes he chose, but more the ones he bothered to show up for.
	You need to be persistent, like the ocean. Little waves of us crashing on the shores of ABC until they gradually wear down. All Hail Your Cat-Loving Overlord. Serve me well.